Mac OS in a PC?

[jay²]

I'm wondering if there's any in development or if its even possible to do so. I surely think it is posible since Macs are able to run Windows XP with Boot Camp. So there should be no reason why it can't go the other way around? I've been really itching to get FCS but don't want to have to buy a whole new computer.

[Mathew]

I don't think it will be possible without a hardware hack. It has to do with how Macs boot up. RatVega can probably get more specific.

I can see how you might be frustrated but consider just buying a Mac Pro next time you upgrade. Otherwise the $999 iMac is a great way to introduce yourself to the Mac experience. If you don't like it then you can always sell it on Ebay. Ask Dee Boz as he's sold plenty of them. Macs have excellent resale though that might change as we see more and more updates along the intel line.

[GmElliott]

There's been some mild speculation about one of the untold "features" of Leopard being the ability to be installed on non-mac hardware (abliet with less "features"). Time will tell what functionality Apple is keeping under wraps before the official launch in Spring.

Meanwhile buy a Mac Mini and install FCP Studio on it- if you like it you can turn around and sell it (making most of your money back) and use it toward buying a Mac'daddy Pro. :dance1:

I think Charley might be getting rid of his Mac Mini soon- the same one he bought from me less than a month ago. I think he's going Mac Pro too. :devil-smiley-076:

[jay²]

Meanwhile buy a Mac Mini and install FCP Studio on it- if you like it you can turn around and sell it (making most of your money back) and use it toward buying a Mac'daddy Pro. :dance1:

I think Charley might be getting rid of his Mac Mini soon- the same one he bought from me less than a month ago. I think he's going Mac Pro too. :devil-smiley-076:

I frequently visit the Apple Support Forum at work because that's one of the websites that my employer allows us access too and I frequently see people having trouble running FCS in a min.. Whats funny as well is that you get a bunch of professional who bash these people for getting a mini to run a "pro" app like FCS:grinning-smiley-021 . It sounds like you didn't have any problems at getting a mini to run FCS eh?

[Mathew]

The problem with the mini is that it's stuck with crappy integrated graphics a slow hard drive. I think the base iMac has the integrated graphics too.

Final cut does indeed run though. You have to ignore a lot of the crap on the Apple support forums. Not everything you read is true.

[GmElliott]

None whatsoever. Then again I got the factory ram upgrade for my mini to 1 gig instead of the default 512.

It have a Quad Core Mac Pro now and can still honestly say that the Mini ran FCS pretty darn well. I even had some HDV files on it and it ran smooth in FCP. Keep in mind a 1.6ghz Core Duo is faster than a P4 3.0ghz.

Besides you won't be getting it to do ALL of your editing on it. It's a great transitory machine...or gateway drug into the Mac world. ;)

[GmElliott]

Final cut does indeed run though. You have to ignore a lot of the crap on the Apple support forums. Not everything you read is true.

I think that goes with most "support" forums. Your going to hear the worst stories back to back to back. I used to read the MBP forums and started to worry if I had some of the symptoms everyone else was whining about- It'll make you paranoid.

[gl]

It's just not gonna happen. I would not hold your breath. You would be better off just saving or finding an older G4 to play with.


-gl

[Alxtronics]

Hi

I read on another forum someone asking the same question and they directed him to this site: (scroll to the bottom)

http://avaxhome.ru/misc_and_web/howtodual.html


I dont know if it´s true, or if in the remote case it is possible what are the performance limitations.

I have nothing to do with these people. :innocent0007:

Cheers


Alex

[gl]

Can you do it? Yes. It can be done and has been done. The question for me would be if it is worth the effort. I have noticed the most successful projects involved bying specific h/w that was more compatible with the h/w Apple uses.

I just don't think it's worth the effort or expense.

-gl

[RatVega]

I'm wondering if there's any in development or if its even possible to do so. I surely think it is posible since Macs are able to run Windows XP with Boot Camp. So there should be no reason why it can't go the other way around? I've been really itching to get FCS but don't want to have to buy a whole new computer.

Like gl says, it can and has been done. Virtually anything can be done if you have enough knowledge and patience, but practical is another issue. (I put a seriously modified big block Chev in Vega once, it was awesome to watch but the epitome of impracticality...)

Now that Macs have Intel processors, you'll come to see that all computers still aren't equal. Part of the "ease of use" of a Mac is in having hardware that was designed for the task. Then we go and do things like FCS on a Mini to see if we can (and it works) but no one is actually going to bet their career on such a system.

If you're itching to get into FCS, buy a Mac that is designed for the job and get crazy! How happy would you be if you somehow got your aging PC (and anything not built in the last 6 months is "aging") to run OS X Tiger and FCS (probably slower than you'd hoped) only to find you're locked out again when OS X Leopard and FCS6 come out?

As I sit here looking at a (1999) 867MHz Quicksilver G4 that still runs perfectly (on the latest OS versions) I'm not afraid to suggest that your Mac investments will age more slowly. And "a whole new computer" is fast becoming a small fraction of what it takes to get the editing done.

There are differing opinions on whether or not Apple would benefit from a release of OS X for PC. I'm in the camp that thinks that selling a million copies of OS X for (say,) $100 is not as cool as selling a million iMacs for around $2000. I think the gross revenue difference is around $1.9 billion.

Everything is subject to change, but when the Intel Mac announcement was made, Apple stated that they would do all they could to discourage the use of their OS on other platforms, and they can do a lot...

[gl]

Btw you can now find the Dual G5s for around $1k so you may be best served in that range for a balance in price/performance.

-gl